"Khilafah on every tongue"

TFTD: In the nineties, it was said that

"Islam has now become a public opinion, and it is now the Ummah’s hope for salvation, and the Khilafah is on everyone’s tongues after having not been so, and establishing it and returning the ruling by Allah’s commands is the wish of all the Muslims."

Q: Assuming this was accurate, what caused this dramatic change?
(Rummani)

Comments

[Abu Rami]

Either they were wrong when they said society had frozen and activity had ceased...

...or they discovered a magic daawah formula in the late 1980's that suddenly transformed society...

...or the all the Nusrah-seeking actually paid off, with some high-ranking generals influencing public opinion...

...or some other groups (the declined ones, the ones without thought nor method, the ones doomed to failiure) had been more successful at rallying public opinion behind Islam and bringing about an Islamic awakening...

...or they just said that to encourage the few remaining undecided generals that their project would succeed...

...or something else?

[Waleed]

"Khilafah on every tongue"? You must be joking. The only tongues that seem to be mentioning anything even close to a caliphate are:

1. Al-Qaeda-inspired militant groups, as part of their political propaganda. In Iraq they've gone one step further and actually announced the establishment of an Islamic State in Iraq. These groups don't just TALK, they DO things to bring about their goals.

2. Some western politicians and right-wing think-tanks, to perpetuate the farce of an ideological struggle and a rising nemesis. A global Talibanesque caliphate is the modern-day equivalent of the Soviet nuclear threat (only the latter threat was real).

3. HT. However all they claim to be doing to bring about this elusive caliphate is "seeking Nusrah" from a few army generals in the hope they will instigate a coup and then promptly hand power over to HT leaders. HT no longer works to build a popular platform for the caliphate because (depending on who you ask) either a) this platform already exists, or b) society has frozen and is unresponsive.

[British Lampost]

You missed out number...

4.Khilafah was actually on every British Lampost and Traffic Light.

At least the Traffic Wardens have it on their lips.

[Kabir]

Insha Allah if the above quote is true then the Khilafah State must be imminent.

[The Last Wizard]

If it imminent or on everyones lips THEN WHY HAS IT NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED ALREADY?!

to the last wizard

the victory is in allah (swt) hands ! (i am sure you are aware of this)

if you study your islamic history the same question was posed to the prophet (pbuh)!
my advice to you would be to go and check the reponse of the prophet (pbuh) to your question !

[Postman Pat]

The problem is, if everyone's so keen on having a khilafah, why is there only one group in the whole world that says its working for it? Why isn't this popular interest in khilafah issues reflected in the relevant publications, media and public and political discourse?

Oh, the conspiracy thing..

[Clint Eastwood Fan]

Good point Postman Pat.

I think that most of them live in self denial.
For the ones that always speak about reality reality reality they seem to lack a clear understanding about whats really happening in the world.

Or is it that they do understand but are in SELF DENIAL?

Or is it that they do understand but are trying to convince the world otherwise?!

[Rashad Ali]

I'm not too sure about that. From my discussions (when they did do) the pespective of the Hizb in Britain was that the state wasn't close at all; the arab Dawa had been unsuccessfull and that any change would come quicker in Bangladesh; Or more recently Indonesia.

This may be decades away...

[Musab]

Listen, this not making sense, because if there is a good public popular for the khilafa state returning now in the Muslims (as you are saying here!!) then you tell me WHY is it fard wajib to join the hizb and study the books and do the conference and have magazines?!

We all are risking our lives and our family for something ALREADY you say is there?!

Are you making the fun of the hizb leadership or pulling the leg?

[Musab]

It looks like brothers in western countries enjoy to think that the public is now thirsty for khilafa and their job is well done; why? so they can sleep at home on the air conditioning and enjoy the life with their nice web sights, conferences and iftar clubs in Ramadan, and then they can say "we are carriers of dawa working for establishment of khilafa!"

really?! is it so simple as that to do just the same as all the other groups are doing? We saw the web sights with pictures of the balloons saying "hizb tahrir" and the events with the kufr politicians, and we are too angry about this and it is not the way of the Rasool.

It is worse than the people who are waiting for the Imam Al-Mahdi to arrive, just sitting waiting for the coup to arrive, as if Allah will send a coup from the sky like a miracle!

If anyone says the Muslim streets are boiling from anger, then maybe they are right.

But if they say the Muslim street is shouting "Khilafa" then he is wrong and 1000 wrong. Nobody is saying khilafa, not even the hizb tahrir in western countries is saying khilafah now-a-days.

إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون

[Rashad Zaman Ali from Sheffield]

Wasn't it stated by The Amir of HTB Jalaludin Patel that the "khilafah has already been established it just needs to be announced"?

[Maz]

no no he meant ...Its in your head

[Abu Hasan]

Asalaam

I see the brothers on this discussion have great intellectual capability. This can be seen by their responses. We should look at our sacrifices and efforts and see what we have done to bring about change and establish Khilafah as opposed to being smitten by the easy way out.

[Rashad Ali]

Actually I think the whole point is that these types of statements hinder people who are actually trying to create political change, rather we are told just sloganise and everyting is okay - we just need a general.

e.g. "The State has been etablished nothing remains except its birth" 27/1/1972 11 Dhull Hijjah 1391

These are barriers to a realistic analysis of the political situation.

[josh]

rashad and co...

you all forget that victory comes from allah swt. we pray that he grants us al-khilafah.

and rash, theres no need to dig out every little thing that the party has mentioned in its 50yr plus history. its seems as though you disagree with every little thing that the party has said or done over the years. c'mon, you cant be that stupid to have fell for everything. did they really brainwash you that badly?

[rashad ali]

I think you miss the point of the discussion here; namely that is there an impending return of a political system as defined by the exclusive interpretation of HT, or not.

This has no bearing to the aqidah concept of nasr being from Allah.

I would have thought that HT would have taught you that as a member of the Hizb that judging your strengths and weakness' and deciding what actions to undertake has no correlation to the decree of Allah.

Now tell me; do you believe like the leadership in Britain 10-15 years?

Do you believe it is already established, just needs birthing? 1972

Do you believe that the society is rigid and you have failed to change it? 1980 and present see Hizb ut-Tahrir

Do you believe that revival has taken place and the society is on the verge of Khilafah? 90's

They are contradictory but held in the same time frames; just wondering what you perspective was to the actual discussion; or do you just wish to continue scoring personal points? Come on Josh, let us know.

[adi]

rashad,
are you guys of a similar value to ed hussain? terrible man!